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PlayStation 4 - everything you need to know about the PS4

How the PS4 is shaping up to be the next must-own console

September 12th 2008 | Tell us what you think [ 25 comments ]

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How is the PS4 shaping up behind the closed doors at Sony?

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If Microsoft is secretly readying its next Xbox to succeed the Xbox 360, then surely Sony must be working on a PlayStation 4?

Speculation is rife that the next console battle will be fought around 2011-2012. This is when Crytek's CEO Cevat Yerli and industry analyst Colin Sebastian believe that a potential Xbox 720 and PS4 could appear.

Recycling PS3 for PS4

To imagine what a PS4 might be capable of we should look at what the current PS3 doesn't have or doesn't do well. For starters, Sony will need to closely integrate the hardware and software development for its next console.

According to SCEA's CEO Jack Tretton: "The hardware guys developed the [PlayStation 3] fairly independently, then dumped it onto the software guy's lap, effectively saying 'do something with it.'"

Considering that Sony spent around $3 billion developing the PS3, it seems likely that it will use an improved version of the Cell processor for a PS4. IBM has already released an improved version of the Cell for its blade servers. The PowerXCell 8i is a 65nm chip, with support for 32GB of DDR2 memory and eight fully-functional SPEs (compared to seven on the PS3).

The advantage of recycling the Cell is that Sony could retain a familiar development environment and use existing code libraries. The modular design of the Cell architecture could also allow extra Synergistic Processing Elements (SPEs) to be added to future chips. Twenty or more SPEs might be possible on a single 32nm Cell processor.

And if increasing the on-chip SPEs isn't an option in the proposed 2011-2012 time frame, then a PS4 could incorporate multiple Cell chips. IBM's Cell roadmap includes a PowerXCell 32iv, which appears to feature four PPEs (Power Processor Elements) and 32 SPEs, ie four Cell chips running in parallel.

Inside the PlayStation 4

If the PS4 is a revamp of the PS3, we're likely to see some obvious technology upgrades – 802.11n to replace the existing 802.11b/g chipset; an external power supply (to reduce the size of the box and to improve cooling); a massive hard disk; new graphics processor and an increase in the onboard memory.

The memory architecture in the PS3 splits 512MB equally between graphics and application use and it's been suggested that this limits developer freedom. You'd expect the PS4 to address this issue, giving developers more dedicated memory in which to load game levels. Although it's worth pointing out that the PS3 (and any future Cell-based consoles) can use the SPEs for maths-intensive tasks like physics.

New graphics processor

What about a replacement for the PS3's NVIDIA-built RSX graphics processor? We've already speculated that Microsoft could use Intel's general purpose Larrabee chip in its next Xbox to handle real-time physics and AI. Rumours also suggest that Intel is pimping Larrabee to Sony for the PS4.

Like any Xbox 360 replacement, the PS4 is also going to have a much bigger hard disk. This will be in readiness for a wealth of downloadable content that will include games, demos, music, movies and TV shows. A terabyte HDD isn't out of the question. And in a world that will increasingly be looking to online services for content, does any PlayStation 4 still need a Blu-ray drive?

A PS4 without Blu-ray?

While the PS3 was instrumental in helping Blu-ray beat off HD DVD, there's a strong argument for dropping an optical drive from the PS4 altogether. Console owners are already downloading gigabytes-worth of game demos, video trailers, full-length movies and TV shows. With a giant hard disk in the PS4, games could simply be piped straight to the console on release day; long install/level load times would be eliminated.

Along with the Cell processor, the Blu-ray drive is one of the PS3's most expensive components. The PS3's high price has forced it into third place behind the Nintendo Wii and Xbox 360. Sony will be keen not to price itself out of the next console battle.

As Acclaim boss Dave Perry recently claimed: "Because of the cost of making the PlayStation 3 and because they sold it at a loss, Sony basically has pretty much no chance of making money on the PS3, because it's lost more money than they made during the entire peak of the PlayStation 2 – it's not going to happen again for Sony."

Sony can't simply slash its prices like Microsoft has recently. And Blu-ray is partly to blame. Billy Pidgeon, an analyst at market researcher IDC points out: "Blu-ray licensees would be threatened by pricing the PS3 below stand-alone Blu-ray players. The PS3 is a bit challenged on that side."

Chasing the dream of a digital hub

Do consumers really want a PlayStation 4 that does everything? Sony's next console needs to be a machine that plays the best games. Just like the PS2 did. The PS4 could go one of two ways – a premium all-in-one box that offers Blu-ray, integrated playTV and a much larger hard disk; or a pure games machine, stripped of its expensive technology in favour of mass market appeal?

Whatever the PS4 looks like, the final question to be asked is: when will it launch? Sony's Kaz Hirai has already given us a hint: "If you look at the history of the way we've managed our console business," he said, "we always try to hit a 10-year life cycle "

That might put any PS4 launch back to 2016. But when you consider that the PS2 is still chugging along in the shadow of the PS3, a PS4 could easily sit alongside and overlap the existence of the PS3.

What do you want to see in the PS4? Let us know in the comments
 

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djeden


June 1st

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shimmerlinglaw


May 13th

24. it would be pretty cool to see the ps4:

-liquid cooled

-100% download based (download games instead of buy them in stores)

-a newer gui the ps3 is boring even with themes... maybe a moving background

-a terabyte seems a little too big for a game console but still it would be nice...

-assuming a terabyte will be used allow users to install mac os or windows on the system instead of just linux

-make the internet browser with every plugin

-make the controlers more ergonomic to the hand... grips and indentations where the hand naturally rests on the controller...

-break out of the playstation style controller make something new and exciting different button configuration

... sony should really strike a deal with apple and make a section specifically dedecated to the ipod seeing as though the ipod is the most popular mp3 player on the market people should be able to control their ipod from their ps4 something i wish i could do with my ps3... and even though blu-ray may be dead for movies in 5 years i still think its perfect for gaming

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cyberdogexpress


April 14th

23. The PS4 will have to be backwards compatible for DVD-roms and blu-ray, but since this is too costly they'll probably make it as an add on with the current PS3 systems for downloads of music, movies and games.

The HDD would exceed too terabyte memory to cope with it's main download function. The PS4 would be sleek and compact. It would be nice if Sony incorporated IMAX Technology for maximum veiwing of blu- ray or other movie formats. Imax is Higher than actual HD which will make this most costly to intergrate. The backwards compatibility issues is the Enviromental option because your not getting rid of the games all the time and you can play them. The download option is the way forward for the PS4 but will work best as an add-on, than an actual standalone console. Sony have crashed and burned with the PS3 making a huge loss so doing it this way, they make the most of what we've got, but just advancing it a little.

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outlawdave


March 7th

22. lots and lots of players in xbox 360 that i spot tries very hard to collect as much achievements as possible and tries to be the top highest and they know the best way to do that is to borrow and buy every single 360 games they could find. im very sure that if playstation 4 had that then people would just chase after games to keep collecting while way more games than ever would be bought.

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outlawdave


March 7th

21. i would say PS4 should have avalible to have achievements like in Xbox 360. Every single games in 360 are achievement collectable and people who doesnt like kids games still buys them for achievements and thats what made me play on my 360 more than my wii and ps3. achievemets can like proof if the games are 100% completed, cheer people up, collectable and are like rewards for being good players and thats what made them popiler.

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darksoul_divx


March 3rd

20. Well is there was to be a ps4 anytime in the near future.... here are some specs i would expect it to have.

1. Cell or multi cell processors

2. Blu-ray drive (considering the price will be as low as dvd drives are now)

3. Internal HDD around 1TB or more

4. Kepp the XMB

5. A Stable system that is developer friendly to eliminate alot of the locking and crashing issues the ps3 is currently suffering from.

Mainly the PS4 could improve upon the ps3's design making it more developer friendly and stable. including some of the latest in networking tech and grafix tech, and having a great lineup of games to be released before the console launches. I think back to when the playstion 1 was out and it was retardet to get one. then the price droped. games started coming out. and it kicked alot of ***. The playstion 2 had a nice pricetag on it when it 1st came out. and so the ps3 is a highest by far but the price will drop as the tech gets older and games will start pouring in as developers get better kits for making the games. Lets hope they focus a little more on the fact that it is suppose to be GAMING in mind when they release the next console and take the Movies as a 2nd role in the development.

just my 2 cents.

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